Ford v. Ferrari is a racing movie in the same way the original Rocky was a boxing movie. Sure, the boxing scenes in Rocky were exciting and dramatic, but they really served one purpose: to provide the motivation and resolution to what was ultimately a very intimate, very human story about setting a goal and beating odds that feel like they’re overwhelming. Ford v. Ferrari star Christian Bale thinks his film’s racing scenes are absolutely thrilling, but he also believes that director James Mangold has tapped into that same Rocky spirit to make it a movie that’s ultimately about the hearts and souls of these characters. (Click on the media bar below to hear Christian Bale)

Ford v. Ferrari is playing now in theaters.

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