When it premiered three years ago, This Is Us instantly became a lot of people’s favorite television show. Not just their “favorite new television show,” their favorite television show. Now here we are, with the show having begun its fourth season, and more people than ever are feeling that way, as it continues to work its magic week after week. And Chrissy Metz is convinced that it’s magic — she told us the show’s secret is that it’s built on a foundation made of magic. (Click on the media bar below to hear Chrissy Metz)

This Is Us airs Tuesdays at 9/8c on NBC.

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